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Things are happening
Heads up
Golf plans (golfers please read carefully)
Air tours (feedback needed)
Nail suggestions
Passing thoughts
Baggage and stuff
Golf, baths, etc.
Mailbag
Roommate Clearing House
Registration
Latest schedule
Latest headcount
Web Sites
Administrivia
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Things are happening:

As you can see, there's a lot happening. There are a few items in this
mailing that may require some feedback from some of you. Please respond
as appropriate.

Again, welcome to those who just joined the list. We hope you can make
it in person. As you see, we have a very exciting agenda planned. If
there are any questions or concerns, please let us know.
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Heads up:

30 day in advance prices (such as air and hotel) expire this week!
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Golf plans (golfers please read carefully):

Here's the story, the person who coordinated the golf outing last year
will not be able to do this again this year.

>It makes me feel a little helpless, not being able to set it up this
>year. Please submit this for discussion, so we can get some feedback.

I see a number of options for those who want to golf:

1. Somebody who doesn't mind doing some legwork volunteers to coordinate
the golf outing, books a course, makes a list of golfers, etc. See notes
below.

2. Golfers get together in advance via e-mail (we can set up a DLVGOLF
mailing list if you wish) and work out details. If there's interest,
I can set up a mailing list for this in a few minutes.

3. Golfers get together in real life at an early DLV opportunity, such
as the welcome gathering on Friday, and plan a golf session for one of
the following mornings. Again, see notes below.

>Last year, before booking tee times, I first had to
>ascertain a definite number of golfers that would show
>up, and that was a job in itself. The get together at
>Goodtimes was the right venue to tally the number of
>golfers who would participate. Since the one booking
>the times is financially responsible for those who may
>not show, that could have been substantial. And a
>credit card is required for booking.

>It was Saturday morning before I could book tee times
>for Monday's outing. The course decided upon (Las
>Vegas Golf Club, for it's location, open guest policy
>and price, less than $35) wouldn't take tee times more
>than one week in advance, which is still the status
>quo. And... most of the weekend morning tee times are
>taken by local golfers who call exactly one week
>prior, usually the minute the clubhouse opens.
>Sooo... the booking of a weekend morning tee time a
>couple of days prior will be extremely difficult, if
>not mission impossible.

>I do not think we (DLVers) would want to spend upwards
>of $200 for a course that we could book a month or two
>in advance, and some being resorts and semi-private
>clubs, they may have refused our business when we show
>up en femme (you never know).

Thoughts? Ideas? Volunteers?
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Air tours (feedback needed):

Gina writes:

>If everybody is interested in flights to Lake Meade, Hoover dam and the
>west end of the Grand Canyon, I'd suggest that we base our planes at
>Henderson, it would be a lot easier for Air Traffic Control and its
>about 20 nautical mile round trip closer, so the flights could see more
>or have more flights. We can't at any reasonable (<8000 ft.) altitude
>explore any areas of the Grand Canyon that are near the most touristy
>area, because the air space is restricted, and it is at the East end of
>the canyon. It is hard to understand just how big the Grand Canyon
>really is. It's about 130 miles from end to end. But the west end of
>the canyon is quite spectacular and well worth a look see.

>My suggestion would be to fly 1500 agl east to Boulder Dam, north across
>Lake Meade at 3000-4000 feet following Lake Meade up the Colorado River,
>cut the lake and river corners and go over the west end of the canyon at
>minimum allowable altitude, I think it is 7500 feet, but I need to
>check. Spend 10-20 minutes over the canyon and then head straight back
>to Henderson. About 60-90 minutes, A flight like this would normally
>cost $150-250. Everybody might want to chip in for fuel for Denise, Mine
>is a company plane so it's no big deal.

>It would be fun to fly over in very loose formation, it would make is a
>bit safer too so that we can keep an eye on each other in the desolate
>areas. Denise what is your cruising speed? I'm at about 130 knots, but
>Cessna's are pretty adjustable.

>How does that sounds and who is interested?

Thanks, Gina.

We need some feedback here. How many are interested in this and what
time(s) seem to be good for both pilots and passengers, as we should get
this on the schedule as a "solid" item ASAP. We have this tentatively
marked down for Friday and Sunday mornings. Will this work for you
(Gina, Densie) and for those interested in flying?
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Nail suggestions:

>Some of the girls have given some great suggestions. So, I am going to
>give one of mine, concerning nails. For you girls who have never had a
>full set of nails, your time at DLV is a terrific time to try it out.
>This is so much nicer than the press on nails, and they look like real
>nails. The cost, with tip, is usually between $25-30. It is very
>difficult to remove these nails. So, if you want to go home with the
>same nails you arrived with, plan on going back to a salon for a 5
>minute nail removal. Cost is usually only $5-10.

>Now, I hear someone saying, "but, Vicki, I am going to be in boy mode
>part of the time." Fine. Just remove the polish when in boy mode, and
>then you can polish your own nails when you are getting ready to go out
>en-femme. Bring your own nail polish, polish remover, and other nail
>products you use. I get my nails done twice a month, and I recommend
>you try this at DLV if you have ever wanted to. Finally, these nails
>will be stronger than your natural nails. You can do anything you
>normally do and they won't fall off like the press-on nails do all the
>time.
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Passing thoughts:

Wow, quite a few comments on this one ...

>>You won't pass any better by dressing down (commonly referred to as
>>"wearing a potato sack"), since you either pass or you don't regardless
[snip]

>Annie, I don't believe your not saying anything about this, your
>the one who always says to dress down to pass.

Well, if taken in the proper context, I tend to agree with many of the
points made about that. (Dressing down will not in itself assure passing,
etc.)

... and ...

>.. now I know you would probably wear jeans to the Prom, but some of us
>like to dress up, and Vegas is perfect for it.

There's a time and place for everything. Wearing jeans to the prom would
be as absurd as wearing a prom dress while sightseeing on the Strip in
the day. (Yes, I do love to dress *up* at times, look more carefully at
some of the DLV archives. :)

... and ...

>I can't believe I'm actually going to talk about clothes. I don't
>usually do this.

[snip]
>> >... Candidly, most of us DLV girls don't pass all that well, and
>> >you're going to get read anyway when we're all in a big group, so just
>> >dress to enjoy yourself.

>While dressing to enjoy yourself is a good idea, I have to disagree with
>the rest of this paragraph. I have been in T groups where bystanders
>felt that some of us were "real women" and some weren't. In fact,
>according to Annie, that was exactly what happened at the Frank Marino
>show last year.

Actually the anecdote I overheard about Frank Marino occurred in 1999,
not 2000. Quote was: "About half were real girls ..."

>Dressing differently from the rest of the crowd will
>always get you noticed. Sometimes that's desirable and sometimes it
>isn't. I've come to the conclusion, after going through the Montreal
>Experience and all, that it really makes no difference whether you're a
>man or a woman...it's more important just to be yourself and do what you
>enjoy doing. However, if presenting yourself as female is important to
>you, casual is best in most situtations.

>> >That said, I would recommend avoiding dressing like a hooker. :-)

>*shrug* Some people enjoy dressing like hookers. If that's your thing
>and you can take the consequences, go for it.

>> >You would be surprised how few ladies wear dresses or skirts during the
>> >day in LV.

>Or anywhere else in the US?

>> >Try for some dressy sandals.

>I like sandals, but would recommend them with the caveat that they can
>be much more difficult to walk in than they appear to be. If you're
>planning on walking the strip in new sandals, bring plenty of Band-Aids.
>Also, in the desert climate, your feet will get dirty in sandals, and
>I'm told that Jesus won't be there to wash them this year, so you may
>have to take time out to do that, especially if you go to Rhyolite.

>> >Unless you are in your early 20s, you may want to avoid shorts.

>Harumph! I've been 29 for several years now, and I wear shorts quite
>frequently, as does my mother. My grandmother, on the other hand, tends
>to dress like my grandmother, but we all know what that's about, don't
>we?

Actually, last year for the Strip tour, I remember one of our people
wearing some pink(?) shorts that looked very nice and were not at all
out of place, and she was maybe a couple years over 29. You will see
a lot of shorts in Las Vegas.
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Baggage and stuff:

>>>Do you know for sure how many bags you can now bring on the plane?<<

>When I go off to out-of-town events, I get around the plane/bags problem
>by shipping a box of my bigger / heavier / cumbersome things (makeup
>mirror, breast forms, shoes, etc.) by UPS directly to the hotel.
>Usually for around $20 - $25 I can have all this stuff waiting for me
>at the hotel when I get there.

>All you then have to do is call UPS (1-800-PICK UPS) on the last UPS
>business day before you leave, and schedule a pick-up of your stuff and
>have it shipped back to your home. Be sure to bring a roll of packaging
>tape with you to seal the box, and have address labels made up in
>advance to affix to your box. (You can get these at any Office
>Max/Staples type store). You'll also need to make sure you have access
>to a bank where you can have a money order cut to pay for the return
>shipping.

>(The last time I did this, UPS didn't accept personal checks or credit
>cards for package pick-ups. This may have changed, I'll check on it.)

>This may sound complicated, but it's really not, and is worth the price
>of not having to lug all this stuff through the airport.

If I may make a few comments here, since I've shipped stuff to Las Vegas
this way for business. First, I would allow TWO MORE DAYS than UPS says
for delivery. Las Vegas has two large UPS depots, both very busy and
hectic, and in more than one case I've seen stuff arrive at the wrong
one, taking ONE FULL DAY to make it to the correct depot. Sure, they do
guarantee delivery, and will refund the shipping cost, but they do not
guarantee they will do anything to expedite or trace a lost package,
other than thru their normal methods, which can be very slow.

In all fairness to UPS, they seldom if ever actually lose a package,
and if you don't get it they can tell you exactly where it is, but my
experience in shipping to Las Vegas via UPS shows there's a significant
chance of a delay.

Second, please be aware most hotels do have a charge for receiving
packages for guests. At Sahara and Riviera (and others, I suspect) all
guest packages go to the Business Services Center. You pay when you
pick up or have them deliver to your room.
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Golf, baths, etc.:

>> Don't know for sure. It depends highly on what course. Golfers (I hate to
>> sound like a stuck CD on this, but ...) have you made any definite plans?

>I plan to beat the ground with sticks and swear a lot...my usual golf
>game.

>> shoes, just in case, extra outerware items in case you get a free
>> cold bath at Keys, etc.

>...and sexy lingerie, and some Lidocaine just in case that leads to
>something later on?

Lidocaine? You plan on visiting the dentist during DLV? :)
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Mailbag:

>I really do want to attend. Maybe by registering like this it will be
>the driving force I need to get off my bottom and do what I've been
>working toward for years.

Well, we certainly hope you can make it. We've had many who are new to
going out and with almost no exceptions, all have really opened up and
enjoyed themselves.

>My special needs are limited to coming up with the money and time to get
>away.

DLV can be very affordable. Las Vegas is very reasonable as far as hotel
rooms and food. You might want to put yourself on the roommate wanted
list if you want to share a room to save $$$.

>The other special need is to get out with the girls just once.

That we can take care of! :)

If you're new to everything and may need some advice and help, either
before or during DLV, there are volunteer Big Sisters who will be able
to answer your questions or concerns. Just ask if you are interested in
this.
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Roommate Clearing House:

This will be an ongoing section whenever there are current roommate
items. Items will be posted until we get a note to remove them. If you
are interested in sharing a room with the individual(s) below, please
contact directly using the e-mail address(es) below.

Please keep in mind that any roommate arrangements are a private matter
between the cooperating parties only. DLV organizers and volunteers are
not responsible if there are problems or if things don't work out. We do
absolutely no screening of roommate candidates. Everything is at the
risk of those involved.
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Roommate (with room) Needed:

Name: DeeDee Devereaux
e-mail address: deedeenola@hotmail.com
Arriving: Wednesday or Thursday
Leaving: Sunday or Monday (adjustable)
Do you have a room to share, or do you need space in one: Need space

Any annoying habits or traits:
Don't smoke or snore, but I do spend a lot of time in front of the mirror.

Any additional notes or comments:
Anyone coming out of New Orleans?
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Roommate (with room) Needed:

Name: Rachael
e-mail address: Silkylegsnlips4u@aol.com
Arriving: 05/02/2001 (Wednesday)
Leaving: 05/07/2001 (Monday)
Do you have a room to share, or do you need space in one: Need space

Any annoying habits or traits:
I don't smoke, don't snore, I am not into late TV, really no annoying
habits.

Any additional notes or comments:
I don't mind sharing with someone that has some habits. I am very easy
to get along with.
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Registration:

To register for Diva Las Vegas 2001 (no charge), visit the URL:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/register.html

To change/update your registration, visit the URL:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/update.html

The numeric Confirmation Number you get when you register will be your
password to the update page. If you have misplaced or forgotten this,
write to dlv@geekbabe.com with your name and e-mail address and it will
be sent to you.

If for some reason you are unable to register on the web, or if you
would prefer not to, you may register the "low-tech" way by sending
e-mail to: dlv@geekbabe.com as in the years before.
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Latest schedule:

Wednesday: 5:00pm Dinner Milano's
May 2 7:30pm Pre-DLV get-together LV Lounge

Thursday: Morn
May 3 Aft
3:00pm Shopping, dinner, more shopping
After Keys

Friday: Morn Air tours Details TBA
May 4 1:00pm Matinee movie Location TBA
5:00pm Din-din Sahara Buffet
7:30pm Welcome Goodtimes
(Official group photo taken about 9:00pm)
11:00pm Dance Night Gipsy, et. al.
2 AM Late Night Gambling Location TBA

Saturday: 12:00n Shopping and Hopping Start at Paris
May 5 8:30pm Kenny Kerr And Friends Frontier
(Official group photo taken immediately after)
Midnite Rocky Horror Picture Show Paradise 6
After Barhopping

Sunday: Morn Air tours Details TBA
May 6 1:00pm Dam tour
10:00pm Folies Bergere Tropicana
After Limo Tour of Strip

Monday: Morn
May 7 Aft Side trip - Rhyolite
8:00pm Bibi get-together LV Lounge
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Latest headcount:

Sun Mar 25 01:05:12 CST 2001
Ppant signup: 71
SO signup: 20
Total signup: 91
Weighted signup: 58.5
Projected headcount: 73.80
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Web Sites:

DLV main page http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/

Michelle Jenkins http://www.idis.com/mpj
Tina http://home.swbell.net/tinatdre/
annie http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/
Julie http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/9289/
Rickie's Place http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/rick121
Margeth http://www.geekbabe.com/margeth/
Melissa http://www.geocities.com/melissa_t17
Cactus Rose Club http://www.geocities.com/crc_az
Debbie Sage http://intermind.net/~sage/
Vicki http://hometown.aol.com/vickits44/myhomepage/index.html
Mindy http://www.fortunecity.com/village/freedom/785/
Bea http://BeatrizZ.tripod.com/
Lorraine http://members.tgforum.com/lorraineadams
Julie Anne http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Chelsea/8576/
Dorothy http://dorothy_d.homestead.com/home.html
Denise (Densie) http://www.geekbabe.com/admaero/
Linda http://hometown.aol.com/lindatvgirl/myhomepage/profile.html
Robin http://www.geocities.com/cdrobinfl/
Leslie http://hometown.aol.com/lesliejohara/myhomepage/index.html
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